Omni

Republicans in congress are out to fool you. They are feigning fear and outrage over the new proposed health care reform bill that the White house is pushing. They want you to think that reforming health care is dangerous. It will bankrupt the poor, poor multi-billion dollar insurance companies. They want you to believe there is no way the government can run anything right; while at the same time trying to get you to believe the new government option will be so good there is no way private insurance companies will be able to compete. They want you to feel sorry for the insurance companies -- not ask why the insurance companies don't simply get their act together if they are so afraid of competition.

But why? Why are Republicans so adamantly against health care reform? Well, there's 2 fairly obvious reasons.

1) Politics. Simple, uncensored, politics - The Republicans need to hurt Obama and the Democrats. Health care reform is Obama's big baby, and if they can trip him up on it and cause him to fail to reform health care you can bet the farm that they'll be coming back in 2010 running on a platform of "Obama failed to deliver his biggest promise - health care reform". They need to do so so badly that they are willing to throw us "the people" under the bus. Forget the fact that we are finally on the verge of actually doing something about the health care system problem we've been complaining about (and dying over) for decades.

Recently Republican Senator Jim DeMint said the following of Obama's health care reform plan. “If we’re able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo. It will break him.”

Here's the audio, to put it in the context of voice tone:


2) Money - Republicans are not only pro big business but they are more specifically by and large pro health care. The health care lobby is one of the lobby groups in America. Right up there with big oil and tobacco. They want to see healthcare remain as is because they are basically bought and paid for by the health industry.


How they're going to do it.

1) Bogus reports provided by...... the health insurance industry - You may notice that whenever you see a Republican or conservative strategist on television talking about health care reform you usually hear them cite a "recent study" by the Lewin Group that illustrates how the Obama health care reform bill will cost hospitals and doctors money and threaten the economy. But wait a second. Who the heck is the Lewin Group?

Source: HealthJournalism.org

But hey, no need to be alarmed, this is merely the same UnitedHealthCare that settled a case for $400 MILLION January for manipulating (withholding) payments to doctors and patients.

2) With a little help from the chamber of commerce - Wonder why the Republicans have fielded every trick in the book to ensure Obama doesn't get health care reform passed before August recess? Well beside from the fact that it will allow Republicans to go home to their constituents for a month and stoke as much fear of change as possible there's also the fact that they've known all along that the chamber of commerce is starting a multi-million dollar print, web, and TV ad campaign against health care reform. Yes that's right, I said the chamber of commerce. No monetary motives there at all. They're going to spend millions of dollars in less than a month to stop a health care bill. Are you wondering what would motivate the chamber of commerce to spend that much money in that short a time on a given issue? I sure am....

Make no mistake about it folks. We need health care reform. The status quo isn't helping anyone but insurance companies. Be informed.

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Knight

Actually the major problem will be rationing healthcare. This is something that happens will ALL forms of national healthcare. Just look at Canada's or the UK's national healthcare. People are unable to get treatment because they are too old, too sick, the treatment would cost the government too much.

I do agree the healthcare system needs reform, but this will only make it worse. The reason our healthcare costs so much right now is because of litigation, lawyers suing for everything they possibly can, insurance (doctors have to buy insurance that will cover them should they get sued...and since being sued is very likely, the insurance is very expensive) Also, people who are responsible have to pay for those who are not. For example, some people never pay for their health care (illegal aliens, people with no money, people with no health insurance), this drives both healthcare costs, and health insurance costs, up.

Omni

It's interesting that you mention Canada and rationing...

Did you know that the number of U.S. citizens that have no health care insurance is actually more than the entire population of Canada?

Better to have some than none, eh?

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Bully

I completely support obama's healthcare plan. I think it could prove to be a boon for people who can't really afford our highly expensive healthcare system.

Summer

Bully no one cares if you support Obama or not... this thread is for, why republicans are against healthcare reforms.

I completely agree with omni on his/her "analysis" (really?)

Ninja

Republicans don't care for us. Its been proved by Bush and Co. All they care is for their selfish motives. So whatever propaganda they run against Obama and his National Healthcare Plan... I am supporting Obama.

Nolan

I think you're right about that. Why is it a bad thing to cover all people's health? I just don't understand why they're doing this.

Well, I can make a few guesses--they want to ruin the president, for one.

Lonestar

Oh, I don't know, something about the COST. In a time when we are spending more than we are bringing in, and where higher taxes will put even more hardship on Americans, its just not right. Has anyone here actually sat down to read ANY of the actual bill as it is proposed in Congress?

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bptr

Suddenly you "conservative" wackos are concerned about costs?
Where were you when we spent trillions on bogus wars? Your president Bozo the Clown moron went 8 years spending like crazy and giving handouts and tax breaks to every corporate asshole he could.
Don't give me this bull****! It's all about money. Healthcare in this country is a huge money making machine and all the corporate pigs and politicians in their pocket don't want to lose it. Faux News spends millions with their propaganda machine fooling the fat stupid public. They may be morons, but I see the reality.
So **** you! You are either a complete moron or corrupted beyond belief.
In the end, I will be shoving this up your asshole you complete ****ing prick!!!

OSCAR

Everyone in this country, no matter what party you follow need to wake up and realize the serious impact this healtcare reform bill will have on our country!
1. I work in healthcare and I can verify that 1 out of 5 Dr's will stop practicing. They already stretch their days out to see as many patients as possible - see more for less. Now you want to introduce 30 more individuals to the system that's already strained? There are not enough physicians to support this. Oh you think more people will go to school to become Dr's....think again....less will go or less of the smart good ones will take that track.
2. When you can't get an appt with your Dr. you are going to wish you never supported this bill. It's always hind sight is 20:20.
3. Wait until you or a family member can't get treatment for a serious illness and they die - this happens every day in every county that has national healthcare. I personally have spoken to many individuals in these countries who have lost a loved one because they couldn't get treatment in time.
4. Good healtcare will only be found by those physicians who decide to not participate in this propgram - the reimbursement will be so low they will only take private pay. So you will have to pay out of pocket.
5. Every single hospital will stop buying new advanced technologies.....they won't be able to afford it - what a trickle down effect that will have...think about it...MRI's, CAT scans, ventilators, etc....did I say I worked in healthcare - no one knows how these providers are working out their contingent plans. Thousands, if not millions of workers WILL lose their jobs.
6. How do you think they are going to pay for this bill?? Well first they are going to dip into our pockets and the worst part is the Medicare cuts. Rob Peter to pay Paul. Again Dr's will stop taking Medicare and all of our parents will get compromized care or NO care. Medical News: Medicare Pay Cut Goes into Effect on Monday - in Practice Management, Reimbursement from MedPage Today

Wake up people this is serious. It's never worked in any other country and the sad part is we have the best care here in America - that's why people come from all around the world to get care here. That will all go away just so we can give healthcare to those who would rather buy and iPod and fancy car then to buy healtcare.